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More Camera Rolls For iOS8

The ‘Camera Roll’ feature continues to be an annoyance of iOS 8. There is a possibility it will return in iOS 8.1, but it is not entirely clear how it will relate to the iCloud Photo Library. In the meantime, there are several apps that can replace the camera roll.

My Camera Roll ($1) is a Universal app that let’s you view your camera roll, and do basic editing. I haven’t tested this one, but some of the reviews say that you see both iCloud photos and local photos.

I mentioned MyRoll: Smart Camera Roll Organizer (a Universal app that’s free) in my previous post. It’s got a feature called Moments which groups similar photos automatically, as well as showing a general camera roll. This app also shows images that are in the cloud. The photos are organized with the newest on the top and you scroll downward to go back in time (opposite of how Apple does it – although some other apps do it this way). This same company has also released a free iPhone app, called Camera Roll+, that is a bit simpler and only has the gallery (camera roll). As with their other app, the photos are sorted with newest on the top and the iCloud photos are included in the view.

A new Universal app called Photosane – Classic Camera Roll ($1) was released this week. It gives you a bit more control when viewing albums on your iOS device. You can choose the Camera Roll view, or any other albums you have on your iPhone. Their is also a listing of Smart Albums that include things such as favorites, hidden, recently added, etc. You also have the ability to create new albums. When viewing the camera roll it is sorted with the newest image at the bottom (as Apple does it).

A really nice feature is that there is an arrow to let you immediately get all the way up (to the start of the roll), and another arrow that lets you immediately get to the bottom of the roll (most recent). I constantly wish Apple would add the ability to do that with a tap at the top (which they do have), and a tap at the bottom (which they don’t). One other nice feature is that you can swipe up and down so you’ll skip a few photos and go up or down in the ‘grid’ of photos (you can still do the standard left/right swipe to go from photo to photo). I tried out this new app and it has a few quirks. The ‘help’ screen seemed to open to a blank page and get stuck there (I couldn’t reproduce this – just saw it once). In the camera roll view I see duplicates of many photos, the local version and the iCloud version. I’ve let the developer know about these issues.


I’d still like to see an app that can easily show me local photos and not include the images in my photo stream. Hopefully Apple will get things together and let us iPhoneographers have a clear view of where photos really are when viewing them, or at least let developers deal with the differences (I’m not yet sure if developers can do that under iOS8). Having a ‘local camera roll’ and ‘cloud camera roll’ would be two albums I’d like to see.

My biggest concern is always the iCloud photo size. Soon Apple will store full size images in the cloud, but right now they are storing 2048px maximum size. When I jump between my iPad and iPhone I really don’t want to lose thousands of pixels!

iOS 8: Where Is My Camera Roll?

I’ve been so busy lately that I’ve barely had time to think, but like millions of others I updated my iPad and iPhone to iOS 8. For you iPhoneographers out there, I’m guessing you noticed that the camera roll is missing. Apple has replaced this with the ‘Recently Added’ album. With iOS 8.0.0 those photos were listed by days, so it didn’t feel at all like a camera roll. It felt disjointed (it was almost identical to ‘Moments’ in the general photos section). I vastly preferred just seeing the little squares containing my photos. Well, iOS 8.0.2 came out on Thursday and they have fixed that issue. When browsing the ‘Recently Added’ album I once again see lots of little squares.

I’m glad they fixed that, but there are still problems. I have an iPad that is also connected to my Photo Stream. Photos from that also show up in the Recently Added photos on both devices. If I then try to edit that photo directly in the Apple Photo roll I get the mildly confusing message saying that the photo is not editable, but I can duplicate it and then edit it. If I do that, what resolution photo will I end up with (I could check, but I haven’t tried it yet). Which photos in the Recently Added photos are editable (stored locally)? Which are in the photo stream?

Duplicate and Edit? Where is this photo stored? On my iPhone, or in the iCloud?

Duplicate and Edit? Where is this photo stored? On my iPhone, or in the iCloud?

One of the things Apple is adding is the new iCloud where it will store full resolution photos in the cloud, and will be available on all your devices. This sounds great, but I’m not sure if the stream is really doing that yet. It is supposed to be tied in with OSX 10.10 (Yosemite) that won’t be released for another month. I’m a developer and have been doing some testing with it, but nothing on the photo side (and the new Photos program that will replace iPhoto is still missing). How will all this tie together?

Right now there are bits and pieces. When updating your iPhone you are asked if you want to update to the beta version of the new iCloud Drive with photo stream, and not just the regular photo stream. I declined it. This new iCloud Drive isn’t ready yet, and jumping to the new drive/stream will break my current workflow (importing photos to Lightroom from the Photostream location on my hard drive).

Apple needs to add a few additional albums. Recently Added is fine, but then have a Local Photos and Cloud Photos album. I want to know what is on my actual iPhone. Do I know if that photo is safely stored in the cloud? With just a Recently Added album I just don’t know. Apple could use little icons to indicate things like that, but it might lead to even more confusion, and a visual mess.

In another month Yosemite will come out. iOS 8.0.3 will probably come out. Will Apple make this iCloud Drive/Photostream mess seem clear and coherent? I really hope so. Maybe I’m just overthinking all of this. Should I just sit back and assume everything is being properly stored somewhere? I’m not quite ready to just trust Apple to back up all my photos without me being aware of where things are.

Someday, but not today.

Apple has added some great features for photographers in iOS 8 (manual controls can be used in 3rd party apps!), but the current state of the Photostream is not one of them.


Other articles of interest:
IOS 8 AND THE PHOTO STREAM NIGHTMARE
iOS 8 kills iPhoto and forces a messy transition to Photos
A long (7 page thread) forum discussion on MacRumors
Goodbye to Camera Roll, Where to Find Your Photos (AppleInsider)

A useful app that has a camera roll: MyRoll

iOS 8: Using 3rd Party Apps within the Apple Photo Editor

Apple has made 3rd party apps available directly within their standard photo editing tool.

Developers will need to update their apps so that this will be possible. I know Waterlogue is coming soon (and was shown in the original keynote about iOS 8), and I’m sure many others will get released soon.

Here is an example of how that works using Artomaton on my 3rd generation iPad (the first retina model). I think this is a great new feature since I often do a lot of app switching when I’m editing photos.

iOS 8 Will Revolutionize Your Camera

The Apple World Wide Developer Conference (WWDC) is currently taking place and Apple announced iOS 8. Apple is finally going to let developers have access to the camera API which will let third-party camera apps can have precise control over exposure, focus, and white balance in addition to the controls they already have.

This will let developers create photo apps where you’ll have the ability manually set the ISO, focus, aperture, zoom, white balance, and shutter speed. A full blown manual camera! I really can’t wait to see some of the new apps!

iOS 8 editing photos

Several other new features were discussed. The built in photo editing is going to get a bit fancier, but Apple will also allow developers to embed their filters and editing tools directly into the Photos app. So you can apply third‑party effects to images without leaving the app where you view your photos. Apple did a demo of this on the stage and used used Waterlogue (a really nice app that I can’t live without).

Tracks at sunset
Created with Waterlogue.

Another major feature will be iCloud where you’ll be able to store all your photos. The pricing for various storage plans is competitive with companies so it will be interesting to see what happens. This should allow you to easily get full resolution photos on any device and keep them in sync as you edit them.

One other item of interest was the time-lapse option as one of the shooting modes. I’m interested in exploring this when I start using iOS 8.

There were many other things mentioned. If you want to watch the full video of the WWDC you can do that on the Apple site (warning, it is almost 2 hours long!).

Developers can already start using it to update their apps, but it won’t be officially released until the fall of 2014. I can’t wait to see the first apps that make use of these features.